Rob Skiba
Notes by Stephen M Golden
Copyright © 7 September 2017
The Angels Who Sinned Sent to
Tartarus
{Question: How did the Fallen Angels
produce Giants?
The Days of Jared vs. the Days of
Noah
Post-Flood Return of the Nephilim
Nimrod and the post-Flood Nephilim
(See The Mount
Hermon Roswell Connection Rob Skiba (Low).flv and
Supernatural Truth Session 1 Rob Skiba (Low).flv)
How does one
reconcile Rob’s assertion that T-Rex was a pre-flood Nephilim creation with
Bill Cooper’s assertion that Grendel in Beowulf was a T-Rex?
If “all flesh”
was corrupted, where did the uncorrupted animals that went on the ark come
from?
}
Genesis is a linear book.
The Torah is written in a linear fashion.
Genesis 6 is entirely a pre-flood
context.
The giants mentioned in
Genesis 6 were all pre-flood giants.
Genesis 6:4 [4] There were giants in the earth
in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the
daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty
men which were of old, men of renown.
In Hebrew,
Giants: is Nephilim;
After: is achar [a-car] – immediately after, the next
thing that happened;
When: asher (strongs 834) – shown as “when” in the verse, but better
translated as because (can be translated either when or because, but is “because” 73 times and when 44 times in
the OT). It is a first-cause issue
instead of a repeat-offense issue Rob believes here it is intended as “because”
Mighty Men is GEBOREN = mighty men,
can sometimes mean giant, but not always
Of old is OLAM (strongs 5769) –
the VERY distant past. Also translated
everlasting, and forever
Expansion of Genesis 6:4:
Amplified based on the above information:
There were Nephilim on the Earth in those days, that
being the days of Jared, and also after that, being the days after the first
generation of Nephilim were killed off, but still before the flood, because of
the fact that the Sons of God inserted their seed into the daughters of men,
and they bare children to them, the same, from the pre-flood after that, became
mighty men which were of old, long, long, long ago, men of renown.
The Douay-Rheims Bible supports this thesis as well.
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Understanding the Nephilim is the key to
understanding all of Scripture.
Synchronizing the text with “Scripturally-endorsed
extra-Biblical text”:
Genesis 6 Experiment
Sons of God came unto the Daughters
of Men
Enoch: Angels of the Children of Heaven
Jubilees: Angels of God
They are NOT the children of Seth
Josephus also refers to them as Angels
Angels mating with humans
God is not pleased
Noah and his sons were genetically pure
The Earth and all flesh become corrupted
God grows increasingly angry and tells Noah to build
the ark
The first mention of the wives of Noah’s sons is in
Genesis 6:18. Noah’s wives were
corrupted flesh.
Genesis 6:12 All flesh has become corrupted.
Jasher 4:18 and Jubilees 7:24 elaborate on this.
And their judges and rulers
(Archons/Angels?) In the time the
Watchers and Nephilim were first on the Earth, they taught men all kinds of bad
things. These individuals went to the
daughters of men and took their wives by force from their husbands… and the
sons of men took from the cattle of the earth, the beasts of the field, and the
fowls of the air, and taught the mixture of animals of one kind with the other
in order therewith to provoke the LORD.
Jubilees: And after this (after the Watchers were
judged buried and the first-generation Nephilim were dead) they sinned against
the beasts and birds and all that moveth and walketh on the Earth… and every
imagination in the desires of men was evil continually.
“…Taught the mixture of animals of one species with
the other, in order therewith to provoke the Lord…”
(The Watchers were judged and buried within 500
years after Genesis 6)
How was all flesh on the Earth corrupted? They
started mixing animals and humans together.
The Bible only says Noah was pure. However, based on the Scripturally Endorsed
Extra-Biblical Texts, Noah’s wife was the daughter of Enoch, and Rob assumes
she was pure, so he goes with the premise that Noah’s sons were pure.
Today, in the news, you can read about animal/human
Chimera. 150 animal/human hybrids in
Europe in 2012. That’s what they’re
telling us about. Imagine what’s taking
place in secret labs.
Just as it was in the days of Noah.
Today, do we read anything about angels mating with
humans? No. Today, they’re mixing
species using “science.” (Technology,
actually)
That’s what’s going on.
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Quote from the book “Interview with the Giant” by Judd Burton: “Despite the loss of
their physical bodies (from dying in the flood), there is reason to believe
that the giants’ spirits continued to exist.
In this state, they were (and are) demonic entities. Like other sentient creatures, they have an
eternal spirit at their essence.
Therefore, the Nephilim and related tribes of giants never really ceased
to exist; only their physicality was lost.” –Dr. Judd Burton
Demons are NOT fallen angels.
The fallen angels have no need of inhabiting others,
they have bodies of their own.
I Enoch 15
The giants whom the Fallen Angels produced are evil
spirits. The disembodied spirits of the Nephilim.
God never intended for the Angel/Human hybrid to
exist. When the Nephilim dies, the
spirit has no place to go, so it wanders in dark places on the Earth.
Deuteronomy 32:17
They
sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to new gods
that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not.
Kadesh 2319 fresh new
Karab 7138 near of kin
As in, from the dead Nephilim.
What if the creation of something that God never
intended to exist provides for that opportunity? What kind of spirit would enter that?
This created the Animal/Human hybrids of
mythology. It gave the Nephilm spirits bodies to enter and enabled their return.
The giant’s spirits continued to exist as demonic
entities. They have eternal spirits. The Nephilim and related giants never
ceased to exist. They need a body.
Why did God tell the Israelites to kill all men,
women, and children, animals, too?
Jesus said, “If you’ve seen me, you’ve seen the
Father.” How do those to concepts
relate?
Looking for clues in the research made by others.
Rightly dividing the Word of Truth.
As it was in the days of Noah…
Noah lived on both sides of the flood, there was
some freaky things happening after the flood, and Jesus indicates they will
happen again.
The Nephilim {angel-human
hybrid offspring of the Watchers} hoped to
live an eternal life, but God set their limit to 500 years.
The Nephilim kill each other off, and the Watchers {the Fallen Angels}
have to watch their offspring all die.
The judgment against the Watchers was extremely
severe. They are bound for 70
generations in the earth (2 Peter 2:4-5).
That’s the only time “Tartarus”
{5020. ταρταρόω
tartaroō; from Τάρταροϛ Tartaros
(a Gr. name for the abode of the damned); to cast into hell:—cast...into
hell(1).
}
is used in Scripture.
{
All other references to “hell” in the New Tesatment are geenna
(1067. γέεννα
geenna; of Heb. or. [1516 and 2011]; Gehenna, a
valley W. and S. of Jer., also a symbolic name for the final place of
punishment of the ungodly:—hell(12).)
In the Old Testament, sheol is
used for the departed ones.
(7585. שְׁאוׄל
sheol orשְׁאׂל sheol
(982d); of unc. der.;
underworld (place to which people descend at death):—Sheol(66).)
}
The Watchers, or the Fallen Angels, are bound in the
depths of the earth.
In Greek Mythology, Tartarus is where the Olympians
put the Titans.
In Jude 6 and Jubilees 5:6 The Fallen Angels are
bound in the depths of the earth.
In 1 Enoch, God’s judgment is given to these Angels.
There was not a second incursion (Angels mating with
women) of fallen angels. There is no
scriptural (or Biblically Endorsed Extra-Scriptural texts) indication of this.
First generation of Nephilim were up to 450’ tall.
(300 cubits) Post-flood Nephilim were up
to 150’ and the typical height was about 35 feet.
Genesis 6:12 says all flesh had become corrupted—not
all mankind, but all flesh. This
included all the “nephesh” animals.
{
5315. נֶפֶשׁ
nephesh (659b); from an unused word; a soul, living being, life, self, person,
desire, passion, appetite, emotion.
}
The “Incursion” happened 3550 BC.
The Nephilim were on the earth for 1200 years by the
time of the flood. They completely
corrupted all of creation.
Do Angels tremble at the judgments of God? Yes.
3114 Aztec/Myan calendar
shows up.
3050 BC the last generation Nephilim
Thereafter, the Watchers are placed in Tartarus.
Enoch is raptured.
Noah is born and is called “Rest.”
Notice the Stegosaurus carving from a temple in
Cambodia
Job 40:15-24
[15] Behold
now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass
as an ox. [16] Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is
in the navel of his belly. [17] He moveth his tail like a cedar: the
sinews of his stones are wrapped together. [18] His bones are as strong
pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron. [19] He is the
chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto
him . [20] Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the
beasts of the field play. [21] He lieth under the shady trees, in the
covert of the reed, and fens. [22] The shady trees cover him with their
shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about. [23] Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth
not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his
mouth. [24] He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.
{Rob believes God created the Herbivore-class of
dinosaur. He believes Nephilim created
the Carnivore-class of dinosaur. He does
not believe God created any meat-eating dinosaurs. As a result, he believes only the herbivores
came through the flood.
However, Scriptures speak of God creating sea
monsters (Genesis 1:21). Leviathan (Job
3:8, 41:1; Psalm 74:14, 104:26; Isaiah 27:1) and the “flying fiery serpents” (Isaiah
14:29 and 30:6). These all existed after
The Flood.
In Scandinavia, there are T-Rex creatures commonly
depicted in the carvings of their buildings, and there is reason to believe the
Grendels in Beowulf were T-Rex. (After the Flood
—Bill Cooper) Did Nephilim create these
after the flood?}
Genesis 6:12-13
“And
God saw the earth, and behold, it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted
their way on the earth. And God said to Noah, ‘I have determined to make
an end of all flesh, for the earth is filled with violence through them.
Behold, I will destroy them with the earth.’” (ESV)
Jubilees 5:20 creatures devour each other.
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Genesis 6:11-13 The earth also was corrupt before
God, and the earth was filled with violence. And God looked upon the earth,
and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the
earth.
And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come
before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I
will destroy them with the earth.”
1 Enoch 7:5 “They (the Nephilim) began to sin
against birds, beasts, reptiles, and fish…”
Jubilees 5:2b “Men and cattle and beasts and birds
and everything that walked on the Earth were all corrupted in their ways and in
their orders and they began to devour each other.”
Rob believes the meat-eaters were created by the
Nephilim. Rob also believes Nephilim created
“mythical” creatures like satyrs, minotaurs, etc.
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God changed the nature of humans so angels could no
longer breed with them.
Jubilees 5:12 …
“And their fathers [the Watchers] were witnesses of
their [the 1st generation Nephilim] destruction, and after this they
were bound in the depths of the earth for ever, until the day of the great
condemnation when judgment is executed on all those who have corrupted their
ways and their works before the Lord. And He destroyed all from their places
and there was not left one of them whom
He judged not according to all their wickedness. And He
made for all of His works a new and righteous nature, so that they
should not sin in their whole nature for ever, but should be all righteous each in his kind always.”
God changed
the nature of man so Nephilim could no longer breed with mankind via sex.
Daniel 2:43
“And
whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed
of men: but they shall not cleave
one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.”
The women bore children to these Fallen Angels. (Genesis 6:4)
In all my viewing and reading of this account, it
has never been explained how the angels took women and the women bore children
to them. Did the angels have coitus with
the women? How is it that angels had the
capability to have coitus with women? Do
angels have sexual organs and produce sperm in heaven? Are there male and female angels in Heaven
such that they bear angel children?
Jesus seems to counter-indicate this in Matthew
22:29-30
“But
Jesus answered them, ‘You are wrong, because you know
neither the Scriptures nor the power of God.
For in the resurrection they neither marry
nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.’”
Some indicate they took human form.
https://versebyverseministry.org/bible-answers/how-did-fallen-angels-and-humans-produce-nephilim
Rob indicates angels have their own bodies. How would that work? In addition, if the Fallen Angels took the
form of human bodies, how was the sperm with which they impregnated these women
not fully human? We’re back to the
question of, “How did that produce giants?”
Did these
human bodies produce “angel sperm”?
If they retained their ability to produce “angel
sperm” in these bodies, why would an angel produce sperm to begin with? And why would “angel sperm” be compatible at
all with human reproduction?
Scripture clearly indicates that Nephilim offspring
were the result of the Fallen Angels being desirous of the human women (Genesis
6:2), so there must have been some pleasure involved in this mating.
God changed the nature of humans so angels could no
longer breed with them, as we saw previously.
Daniel 2:43
“And
whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they
shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one
to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.”
“God changed the nature of man so Nephilim could no
longer breed with mankind via sex.” —Rob Skiba
But Jubilees expands this concept.
Jubilees 5:12 …
“And their fathers [the Watchers] were
witnesses of their [the 1st generation Nephilim] destruction, and after this
they were bound in the depths of the earth for ever,
until the day of the great condemnation when judgment is executed on all those
who have corrupted their ways and their works before the Lord. And He destroyed
all from their places and there was not left one of them whom He judged not
according to all their wickedness. And He made for all of His works a new and righteous nature,
so that they should not sin in their whole nature for ever, but should be all
righteous each in his kind always.”
I think Rob is thinking too narrowly here. Before the “incursion,” there was no such
thing as coitus, in man nor animal.
Rather than God changing the nature of man, Jubilees
5:12 says God, “made
for all of His works a new and righteous nature.” Not just for mankind, but for all of His works.
I submit that before the judgment of the Watchers (the Fallen Angels),
Creatures did not have penises and vaginas.
Perhaps the initiation of a life did not even involve sperm; life did
not initiate from sperm and egg.
It could be that two beings, just touching in a
particular way, would cause the mixing of seed and the instantiation new
life. This is just an example of a
mechanism different from what we have today.
This removes the requirement that Angels would have
sperm and explain why Angels can no longer mate with humans after the
punishment.
}
Who is “they”? Watchers.
Fallen Angels.
“Cleave” is a marriage term.
Marriage is the sexual union between a man and a
woman.
{But before the Watchers’ judgment, it was likely a
different kind of “cleaving” than we have today, as mentioned above.}
This verse seems to be a confirmation of Jubilees
5:12
The days of Jared were marked by the mating of
angels and humans. The Watchers came
down in the days of Jared.
Jesus said, “As were the days of Noah…” Matthew
24:37-38
“For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of
Man. For as in those days before the
flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the
day when Noah entered the ark,”
It was in the days of Noah that the animal/human
hybrids brought about the corruption of all flesh which led to God’s judgment
through the flood.
This is also going on right now around the world,
albeit not through sexual relations. (Genesis 6:12)
Books out recently “Corrupting the Image” and
“Forbidden Gates”. They fit side by
side. When you corrupt the Image, you
open forbidden gates.
Nephilim (Strong’s 5303) – used 435 times in the
Bible
Bully or Tyrant
One who falls, rots, or shall be lost. Something that is less than what God
originally created it to be.
Nephilim are not exclusively the offspring of Angels
mating with Humans.
From Nephal (Strong’s
5307) cast down, cease, die divide by lot, let fail. To fall, and many more
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Something that is less than what God originally
created it to be.
The original Nephilim were the offspring from fallen
angels mating with humans.
The Nephilim are not the fallen angels (Watchers).
Genesis 6 4 says the first Nephilim are the offspring of the fallen angels
(Watchers).
Can Nephilim be produced in any other way?
Yes, Nephilim can be produced in other ways.
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We were created in the image of God. (Genesis 1:27)
Perhaps the angels were trying to create something
in their image.
There are a variety of angels described in the
Bible.
Ezekiel 1:5-10 A heavenly being with the likeness of
a man, but an animal/human hybrid. Some angels,
by their descriptions in scripture, seem to be an animal/man hybrids (satyr?)
with wings, four faces, etc.
But this is something God created.
Were the Angels were trying to create something in
their image? Ezekiel 1:5-10
If this is what some of the angels looked like,
could it be that they were trying to create beings in their own image to be
host bodies for them to enter?
The movie Splice
seems to also have this thought: a genetically engineered angel (the movie
makers say this was the goal). Could the
demons be channeling their concepts through the creativity of writers and movie
makers? “Our goal was to create a
genetically engineered angel.” – the movie writers
How did the Nephilim come back after the flood?
1.
Pre-Flood, Angels mated with humans
2.
God issued punishment
3.
First-generation offspring (Nephilim) died in 500 years.
4.
Throughout the next 700 years, second, third, fourth (etc), generation
Nephilim performed genetic manipulation, corrupting all flesh.
5.
Noah and his sons were genetically pure. Noah’s wife (Nayma)
was the daughter of Enoch, so we can assume she was also pure, so Shem, Ham,
and Japheth were all pure
6.
The wives of Noah’s sons don’t show up until after Genesis 6:12. All flesh was corrupted by Genesis 6:12. Tainted seed could have entered the ark
through them. Why would God allow
this? You’re focusing on the
symptom. Don’t focus on the
symptom. Focus on the root cause. God doesn’t focus on the symptom; He focuses
on the root cause. It’s absurd to say
God would allow the Watchers to mate with women again immediately after the
flood. Why would God allow Watchers to
mate with women after the flood? Either
way, there were Nephilim after the flood.
This way, they were “diluted” Nephilim genetics. The Nephilim had offspring, and they had
offspring, etc.
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“This is Narnia.”
This is all the fantasy films we’ve ever seen with crazy giants,
monstrous creatures, and incredible battles.
This stuff really happened. It’s
not allegorical and symbolic.
(You
Tube Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjms5fU9-9w)
In the Book of Jubilees, there is the account of Arphaxad’s son Kainam.
Arphaxad was Shem’s son. Kainam’s wife was the daughter of Shem’s son, Elam, so Kainam married his cousin.
Kainam, finds and reads the
writing from the pre-flood world that contained knowledge of the Watchers.
Jubilees 8:1-5 “And he found a writing which former
(generations) had carved on the rock, and he read what was thereon, and he
transcribed it and sinned owing to it; for it contained the teaching of the
Watchers…”
However, we don’t find Kainam
in the lineage of Genesis 10. Maybe
Jubilees is giving us the reason Kainam was excluded
from the patriarchs in Genesis 10.
Canaan – Genesis 10:15-19
The “ites” —These are the
people the children of Israel constantly had to deal with (kill).
Mitzriam: He begat Caphtor (Genesis 10:13-14) who settled Crete and was the
father of the Philistines (Jeremiah 47:4, Amos 9:7). We know some of the Philistines were
giants. All of
Greek Mythology originated in Crete.
Cush: Married his daughter Semiramis and begat
Nimrod.
Nimrod began to be a mighty
one (Gebor/Geboren)
1.
Nimrod simply became a strong and powerful man
2.
Nimrod began to become a giant himself
3.
Nimrod began to become a hunter of giants
Rob believes all three are true.
The Septuagint (which is a lot closer to the
original source material than King James’ translators): says “He began to be a
giant”
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Fringe TV series
They are examining the body of an animal-human
hybrid.
Injections, modifying his body
“Perhaps the Sumerians….” This tattoo — its cuneiform.” Renewal and rebirth
“They want to create a new species…. Mutation by design.”
The history of Baalbek reaches back approximately
5000 years.
“Excavations beneath the Great Court of the Temple
of Jupiter have uncovered tracesof settlements dating
to the Middle Bronze age (1900-1600 BC) built on top of an older level of human
habitation dating to the Early Bronze Age (2900-2300BC) which makes roughly
contemporary to the tower of Babel.”
After the flood, when Nimrod reigned over Lebanon,
he sent giants to rebuild Baalbek which was so named in honor of Baal, the god
of the Moabites and worshippers of the sun.” –Michael Alouf,
History of Baalbek, p.41
Baalbek stone.
It’s huge.
Modern historians and archaeologists don’t
understand how it was quarried, moved, lifted, and placed. With our resources today, we can’t move
something that big. These stones are
called the “trilothon,” the largest stones ever used
in construction. The construction is so
tight, not even a piece of paper will fit between the stones.
We know how it was done:
Josephus also describes giants: (Antiquities of the
Jews 5.2.3) Bodies so large and countenances so totally different from other
men that they were surprising to the sight and terrible to the hearing.
“There were till then left the race of giants, who had
bodies so large, and countenances so entirely different from other man, that
thy were surprising to the sight, and terrible to the hearing. The bones of these men are still shown to
this very day, unlike to any credible relations of other men.” Antiquities of
the Jews 5.2.3 –Flavius Josephus
It is likely that the Great Wall of China was built
to keep out 35-foot giants from the north.
(That’s why it is so immense.) (Originally called the Ramparts of Magog)
All post-flood giants described in the Bible are the
offspring of other giants in the lineage of Canaan, Mizriam,
Cush, and possibly Japheth (Gog and Magog).
There is evidence that Gog and Magog were giants. The original name for the Great Wall of China
was “The Ramparts of Magog.”
God wiped the last (most?) of these giants out with
Israel’s sword.
Mizriam: begat Caphtor
(Genesis 10:13-14) settled in Crete, the father of the Philistines (Jeremiah
47:4, Amos 9:7). All Greek mythology
originated in Crete.
Nimrod: began to be a mighty one (Geboren) on the earth – Became a giant? Hunter of giants?
Septuagint: says he began to be a giant
Amos 2:9 Amos describes the Amorites:
Yet destroyed I the Amorite before them, whose
height was like the height of the cedars, and he was strong as
the oaks; yet I destroyed his fruit from above, and his roots from beneath.