Return of the Nephilim

Rob Skiba

Notes by Stephen M Golden

Copyright © 7 September 2017

 

Questions: 2

What killed the Watchers?. 2

T-Rex. 2

All Flesh Corrupted. 2

Giants. 3

Synchronizing the Texts. 6

The Days of Noah. 11

The Angels Who Sinned Sent to Tartarus. 15

Pre-Flood Timeline. 19

Why “science” instead of sex?. 23

Changing man’s nature: 23

{Question: How did the Fallen Angels produce Giants?. 25

The Days of Jared vs. the Days of Noah. 31

Who or what are Nephilim?. 32

Post-Flood Return of the Nephilim.. 35

Nimrod and the post-Flood Nephilim.. 37

Baalbek. 41

 

 


 

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Questions:

What killed the Watchers?

(See The Mount Hermon Roswell Connection Rob Skiba (Low).flv and Supernatural Truth Session 1 Rob Skiba (Low).flv)

T-Rex

How does one reconcile Rob’s assertion that T-Rex was a pre-flood Nephilim creation with Bill Cooper’s assertion that Grendel in Beowulf was a T-Rex?

All Flesh Corrupted

If “all flesh” was corrupted, where did the uncorrupted animals that went on the ark come from?

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Giants

Genesis is a linear book.

The Torah is written in a linear fashion.

 

Genesis 6 is entirely a pre-flood context.

The giants mentioned in Genesis 6 were all pre-flood giants.

Genesis 6:4 [4] There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


In Hebrew,

Giants: is Nephilim;

After: is achar [a-car] – immediately after, the next thing that happened;

When:  asher (strongs 834) – shown as “when” in the verse, but better translated as because (can be translated either when or because, but is “because” 73 times and when 44 times in the OT).  It is a first-cause issue instead of a repeat-offense issue Rob believes here it is intended as “because”

 

Mighty Men is GEBOREN = mighty men, can sometimes mean giant, but not always

 

Of old is OLAM (strongs 5769) – the VERY distant past.  Also translated everlasting, and forever

 

 

 

Expansion of Genesis 6:4:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Amplified based on the above information:

There were Nephilim on the Earth in those days, that being the days of Jared, and also after that, being the days after the first generation of Nephilim were killed off, but still before the flood, because of the fact that the Sons of God inserted their seed into the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same, from the pre-flood after that, became mighty men which were of old, long, long, long ago, men of renown.

 

The Douay-Rheims Bible supports this thesis as well.

 

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Understanding the Nephilim is the key to understanding all of Scripture.

 

Synchronizing the Texts

Synchronizing the text with “Scripturally-endorsed extra-Biblical text”:

Genesis 6 Experiment

Sons of God came unto the Daughters of Men

Enoch: Angels of the Children of Heaven

Jubilees: Angels of God

They are NOT the children of Seth

Josephus also refers to them as Angels

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Angels mating with humans

God is not pleased

Noah and his sons were genetically pure

The Earth and all flesh become corrupted

God grows increasingly angry and tells Noah to build the ark

The first mention of the wives of Noah’s sons is in Genesis 6:18.  Noah’s wives were corrupted flesh.

 

 

 

Genesis 6:12 All flesh has become corrupted.

 

Jasher 4:18 and Jubilees 7:24 elaborate on this.

And their judges and rulers (Archons/Angels?)  In the time the Watchers and Nephilim were first on the Earth, they taught men all kinds of bad things.  These individuals went to the daughters of men and took their wives by force from their husbands… and the sons of men took from the cattle of the earth, the beasts of the field, and the fowls of the air, and taught the mixture of animals of one kind with the other in order therewith to provoke the LORD.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Jubilees: And after this (after the Watchers were judged buried and the first-generation Nephilim were dead) they sinned against the beasts and birds and all that moveth and walketh on the Earth… and every imagination in the desires of men was evil continually.

 

“…Taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other, in order therewith to provoke the Lord…”

 

(The Watchers were judged and buried within 500 years after Genesis 6)

 

How was all flesh on the Earth corrupted? They started mixing animals and humans together.

 

The Bible only says Noah was pure.  However, based on the Scripturally Endorsed Extra-Biblical Texts, Noah’s wife was the daughter of Enoch, and Rob assumes she was pure, so he goes with the premise that Noah’s sons were pure.

 


The Days of Noah

Today, in the news, you can read about animal/human Chimera.  150 animal/human hybrids in Europe in 2012.  That’s what they’re telling us about.  Imagine what’s taking place in secret labs.

 

Just as it was in the days of Noah.

 

Today, do we read anything about angels mating with humans?  No. Today, they’re mixing species using “science.”  (Technology, actually)

 

That’s what’s going on.

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Quote from the book “Interview with the Giant” by Judd Burton: “Despite the loss of their physical bodies (from dying in the flood), there is reason to believe that the giants’ spirits continued to exist.  In this state, they were (and are) demonic entities.  Like other sentient creatures, they have an eternal spirit at their essence.  Therefore, the Nephilim and related tribes of giants never really ceased to exist; only their physicality was lost.” –Dr. Judd Burton

 

Demons are NOT fallen angels.

The fallen angels have no need of inhabiting others, they have bodies of their own.

 

I Enoch 15

The giants whom the Fallen Angels produced are evil spirits.  The disembodied spirits of the Nephilim.

 

God never intended for the Angel/Human hybrid to exist.  When the Nephilim dies, the spirit has no place to go, so it wanders in dark places on the Earth.

 

Deuteronomy 32:17

They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not.

Kadesh 2319 fresh new

Karab 7138 near of kin

As in, from the dead Nephilim.

 

What if the creation of something that God never intended to exist provides for that opportunity?  What kind of spirit would enter that?

 

This created the Animal/Human hybrids of mythology.  It gave the Nephilm spirits bodies to enter and enabled their return.

 

The giant’s spirits continued to exist as demonic entities. They have eternal spirits. The Nephilim and related giants never ceased to exist.  They need a body.

 

Why did God tell the Israelites to kill all men, women, and children, animals, too?

 

Jesus said, “If you’ve seen me, you’ve seen the Father.”  How do those to concepts relate?

 

Looking for clues in the research made by others.

 

Rightly dividing the Word of Truth.

 

As it was in the days of Noah…

 

Noah lived on both sides of the flood, there was some freaky things happening after the flood, and Jesus indicates they will happen again.

 


The Angels Who Sinned Sent to Tartarus

The Nephilim {angel-human hybrid offspring of the Watchers} hoped to live an eternal life, but God set their limit to 500 years.

 

The Nephilim kill each other off, and the Watchers {the Fallen Angels} have to watch their offspring all die.

 

The judgment against the Watchers was extremely severe.  They are bound for 70 generations in the earth (2 Peter 2:4-5). 

 

That’s the only time “Tartarus

{5020. ταρταρόω tartaroō; from Τάρταροϛ Tartaros (a Gr. name for the abode of the damned); to cast into hell:—cast...into hell(1).

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is used in Scripture. 

 

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All other references to “hell” in the New  Tesatment are geenna

 

(1067. γέεννα geenna; of Heb. or. [1516 and 2011]; Gehenna, a valley W. and S. of Jer., also a symbolic name for the final place of punishment of the ungodly:—hell(12).)

 

In the Old Testament, sheol is used for the departed ones.

 

(7585. שְׁאוׄל sheol orשְׁאׂל sheol (982d); of unc. der.; underworld (place to which people descend at death):—Sheol(66).)

 

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The Watchers, or the Fallen Angels, are bound in the depths of the earth.

 

In Greek Mythology, Tartarus is where the Olympians put the Titans.

 

In Jude 6 and Jubilees 5:6 The Fallen Angels are bound in the depths of the earth.

 

In 1 Enoch, God’s judgment is given to these Angels.

 

There was not a second incursion (Angels mating with women) of fallen angels.  There is no scriptural (or Biblically Endorsed Extra-Scriptural texts) indication of this.

 

First generation of Nephilim were up to 450’ tall. (300 cubits)  Post-flood Nephilim were up to 150’ and the typical height was about 35 feet.

 

Genesis 6:12 says all flesh had become corrupted—not all mankind, but all flesh.  This included all the “nephesh” animals.

 


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5315. נֶפֶשׁ nephesh (659b); from an unused word; a soul, living being, life, self, person, desire, passion, appetite, emotion.

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The “Incursion” happened 3550 BC.

 

The Nephilim were on the earth for 1200 years by the time of the flood.  They completely corrupted all of creation.

 

Do Angels tremble at the judgments of God?  Yes.

 

3114 Aztec/Myan calendar shows up.

 

3050 BC the last generation Nephilim

Thereafter, the Watchers are placed in Tartarus.

Enoch is raptured.

Noah is born and is called “Rest.”

 


Pre-Flood Timeline

Notice the Stegosaurus carving from a temple in Cambodia

Job 40:15-24

[15] Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox. [16] Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly. [17] He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together. [18] His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron. [19] He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him . [20] Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play. [21] He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens. [22] The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about. [23] Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth. [24] He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.

 

{Rob believes God created the Herbivore-class of dinosaur.  He believes Nephilim created the Carnivore-class of dinosaur.  He does not believe God created any meat-eating dinosaurs.  As a result, he believes only the herbivores came through the flood. 

 

However, Scriptures speak of God creating sea monsters (Genesis 1:21).  Leviathan (Job 3:8, 41:1; Psalm 74:14, 104:26; Isaiah 27:1) and the “flying fiery serpents” (Isaiah 14:29 and 30:6).  These all existed after The Flood. 

 


In Scandinavia, there are T-Rex creatures commonly depicted in the carvings of their buildings, and there is reason to believe the Grendels in Beowulf were T-Rex. (After the Flood —Bill Cooper)  Did Nephilim create these after the flood?}

 

Genesis 6:12-13

“And God saw the earth, and behold, it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth.  And God said to Noah, ‘I have determined to make an end of all flesh, for the earth is filled with violence through them. Behold, I will destroy them with the earth.’” (ESV)

 

 

 

Jubilees 5:20 creatures devour each other.

 

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Genesis 6:11-13 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.

And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.”

 

1 Enoch 7:5 “They (the Nephilim) began to sin against birds, beasts, reptiles, and fish…”

 

Jubilees 5:2b “Men and cattle and beasts and birds and everything that walked on the Earth were all corrupted in their ways and in their orders and they began to devour each other.”

 

 

Rob believes the meat-eaters were created by the Nephilim.  Rob also believes Nephilim created “mythical” creatures like satyrs, minotaurs, etc.

 

 

Why “science” instead of sex?

 

Changing man’s nature:

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God changed the nature of humans so angels could no longer breed with them.

 

Jubilees 5:12 …

“And their fathers [the Watchers] were witnesses of their [the 1st generation Nephilim] destruction, and after this they were bound in the depths of the earth for ever, until the day of the great condemnation when judgment is executed on all those who have corrupted their ways and their works before the Lord. And He destroyed all from their places and there was not left one of them whom He judged not according to all their wickedness.  And He made for all of His works a new and righteous nature, so that they should not sin in their whole nature for ever, but should be all righteous each in his kind always.”

 

God changed the nature of man so Nephilim could no longer breed with mankind via sex.

 

Daniel 2:43

“And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.”

 


{Question: How did the Fallen Angels produce Giants?

 

The women bore children to these Fallen Angels. (Genesis 6:4)

 

In all my viewing and reading of this account, it has never been explained how the angels took women and the women bore children to them.  Did the angels have coitus with the women?  How is it that angels had the capability to have coitus with women?  Do angels have sexual organs and produce sperm in heaven?  Are there male and female angels in Heaven such that they bear angel children? 

 

Jesus seems to counter-indicate this in Matthew 22:29-30

“But Jesus answered them, ‘You are wrong, because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God.  For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.’”

 

Some indicate they took human form.

https://versebyverseministry.org/bible-answers/how-did-fallen-angels-and-humans-produce-nephilim  

 

Rob indicates angels have their own bodies.  How would that work?  In addition, if the Fallen Angels took the form of human bodies, how was the sperm with which they impregnated these women not fully human?  We’re back to the question of, “How did that produce giants?”

 

  Did these human bodies produce “angel sperm”? 

 

If they retained their ability to produce “angel sperm” in these bodies, why would an angel produce sperm to begin with?  And why would “angel sperm” be compatible at all with human reproduction?

 

Scripture clearly indicates that Nephilim offspring were the result of the Fallen Angels being desirous of the human women (Genesis 6:2), so there must have been some pleasure involved in this mating.

 

God changed the nature of humans so angels could no longer breed with them, as we saw previously.

Daniel 2:43

“And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

 

“God changed the nature of man so Nephilim could no longer breed with mankind via sex.” —Rob Skiba

 

But Jubilees expands this concept.

Jubilees 5:12 …

“And their fathers [the Watchers] were witnesses of their [the 1st generation Nephilim] destruction, and after this they were bound in the depths of the earth for ever, until the day of the great condemnation when judgment is executed on all those who have corrupted their ways and their works before the Lord. And He destroyed all from their places and there was not left one of them whom He judged not according to all their wickedness.  And He made for all of His works a new and righteous nature, so that they should not sin in their whole nature for ever, but should be all righteous each in his kind always.”

 

I think Rob is thinking too narrowly here.  Before the “incursion,” there was no such thing as coitus, in man nor animal. 

 

Rather than God changing the nature of man, Jubilees 5:12 says God, “made for all of His works a new and righteous nature.  Not just for mankind, but for all of His works.  I submit that before the judgment of the Watchers (the Fallen Angels), Creatures did not have penises and vaginas.  Perhaps the initiation of a life did not even involve sperm; life did not initiate from sperm and egg.

 

It could be that two beings, just touching in a particular way, would cause the mixing of seed and the instantiation new life.  This is just an example of a mechanism different from what we have today. 

 

This removes the requirement that Angels would have sperm and explain why Angels can no longer mate with humans after the punishment.

 

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Who is “they”?  Watchers.  Fallen Angels.

 

“Cleave” is a marriage term.

Marriage is the sexual union between a man and a woman.

 

{But before the Watchers’ judgment, it was likely a different kind of “cleaving” than we have today, as mentioned above.}

 

This verse seems to be a confirmation of Jubilees 5:12

 


The Days of Jared vs. the Days of Noah

The days of Jared were marked by the mating of angels and humans.  The Watchers came down in the days of Jared.

 

Jesus said, “As were the days of Noah…” Matthew 24:37-38

“For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.  For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark,”

It was in the days of Noah that the animal/human hybrids brought about the corruption of all flesh which led to God’s judgment through the flood.

This is also going on right now around the world, albeit not through sexual relations. (Genesis 6:12)

 

Books out recently “Corrupting the Image” and “Forbidden Gates”.  They fit side by side.  When you corrupt the Image, you open forbidden gates.

 

Who or what are Nephilim?

Nephilim (Strong’s 5303) – used 435 times in the Bible

Bully or Tyrant

 

One who falls, rots, or shall be lost.  Something that is less than what God originally created it to be.

 

Nephilim are not exclusively the offspring of Angels mating with Humans.

From Nephal (Strong’s 5307) cast down, cease, die divide by lot, let fail.  To fall, and many more

 

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Something that is less than what God originally created it to be.

The original Nephilim were the offspring from fallen angels mating with humans.

 

The Nephilim are not the fallen angels (Watchers).

Genesis 6 4 says the first Nephilim are the offspring of the fallen angels (Watchers).

 

Can Nephilim be produced in any other way?

Yes, Nephilim can be produced in other ways.

 

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We were created in the image of God. (Genesis 1:27)

Perhaps the angels were trying to create something in their image.

 

There are a variety of angels described in the Bible.

Ezekiel 1:5-10 A heavenly being with the likeness of a man, but an animal/human hybrid.  Some angels, by their descriptions in scripture, seem to be an animal/man hybrids (satyr?) with wings, four faces, etc.

But this is something God created. 

Were the Angels were trying to create something in their image? Ezekiel 1:5-10 

If this is what some of the angels looked like, could it be that they were trying to create beings in their own image to be host bodies for them to enter?

 

The movie Splice seems to also have this thought: a genetically engineered angel (the movie makers say this was the goal).  Could the demons be channeling their concepts through the creativity of writers and movie makers?  “Our goal was to create a genetically engineered angel.” – the movie writers

 

 

 


Post-Flood Return of the Nephilim

 

How did the Nephilim come back after the flood?

1.                Pre-Flood, Angels mated with humans

2.                God issued punishment

3.                First-generation offspring (Nephilim) died in 500 years.

4.                Throughout the next 700 years, second, third, fourth (etc), generation Nephilim performed genetic manipulation, corrupting all flesh.

5.                Noah and his sons were genetically pure.  Noah’s wife (Nayma) was the daughter of Enoch, so we can assume she was also pure, so Shem, Ham, and Japheth were all pure

6.                The wives of Noah’s sons don’t show up until after Genesis 6:12.  All flesh was corrupted by Genesis 6:12.  Tainted seed could have entered the ark through them.  Why would God allow this?  You’re focusing on the symptom.  Don’t focus on the symptom.  Focus on the root cause.  God doesn’t focus on the symptom; He focuses on the root cause.  It’s absurd to say God would allow the Watchers to mate with women again immediately after the flood.  Why would God allow Watchers to mate with women after the flood?  Either way, there were Nephilim after the flood.  This way, they were “diluted” Nephilim genetics.  The Nephilim had offspring, and they had offspring, etc.

 

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“This is Narnia.”  This is all the fantasy films we’ve ever seen with crazy giants, monstrous creatures, and incredible battles.  This stuff really happened.  It’s not allegorical and symbolic.

Nimrod and the post-Flood Nephilim

(You Tube Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjms5fU9-9w)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


In the Book of Jubilees, there is the account of Arphaxad’s son Kainam.

 

Arphaxad was Shem’s son. Kainam’s wife was the daughter of Shem’s son, Elam, so Kainam married his cousin.

 

Kainam, finds and reads the writing from the pre-flood world that contained knowledge of the Watchers.

 

Jubilees 8:1-5 “And he found a writing which former (generations) had carved on the rock, and he read what was thereon, and he transcribed it and sinned owing to it; for it contained the teaching of the Watchers…” 

 

However, we don’t find Kainam in the lineage of Genesis 10.  Maybe Jubilees is giving us the reason Kainam was excluded from the patriarchs in Genesis 10.

 

 

Canaan – Genesis 10:15-19 

The “ites” —These are the people the children of Israel constantly had to deal with (kill).

 

Mitzriam: He begat Caphtor (Genesis 10:13-14) who settled Crete and was the father of the Philistines (Jeremiah 47:4, Amos 9:7).  We know some of the Philistines were giants.  All of Greek Mythology originated in Crete.

 

Cush: Married his daughter Semiramis and begat Nimrod.

Nimrod began to be a mighty one (Gebor/Geboren)

1.        Nimrod simply became a strong and powerful man

2.        Nimrod began to become a giant himself

3.        Nimrod began to become a hunter of giants

Rob believes all three are true.

The Septuagint (which is a lot closer to the original source material than King James’ translators): says “He began to be a giant”

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Fringe TV series

They are examining the body of an animal-human hybrid.

Injections, modifying his body

“Perhaps the Sumerians….”  This tattoo — its cuneiform.”  Renewal and rebirth

“They want to create a new species….  Mutation by design.”

 


Baalbek

The history of Baalbek reaches back approximately 5000 years.

“Excavations beneath the Great Court of the Temple of Jupiter have uncovered tracesof settlements dating to the Middle Bronze age (1900-1600 BC) built on top of an older level of human habitation dating to the Early Bronze Age (2900-2300BC) which makes roughly contemporary to the tower of Babel.”

 

After the flood, when Nimrod reigned over Lebanon, he sent giants to rebuild Baalbek which was so named in honor of Baal, the god of the Moabites and worshippers of the sun.” –Michael Alouf, History of Baalbek, p.41


Baalbek stone.  It’s huge.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Modern historians and archaeologists don’t understand how it was quarried, moved, lifted, and placed.  With our resources today, we can’t move something that big.  These stones are called the “trilothon,” the largest stones ever used in construction.  The construction is so tight, not even a piece of paper will fit between the stones.

 

We know how it was done:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Josephus also describes giants: (Antiquities of the Jews 5.2.3) Bodies so large and countenances so totally different from other men that they were surprising to the sight and terrible to the hearing. 

 

“There were till then left the race of giants, who had bodies so large, and countenances so entirely different from other man, that thy were surprising to the sight, and terrible to the hearing.  The bones of these men are still shown to this very day, unlike to any credible relations of other men.” Antiquities of the Jews 5.2.3 –Flavius Josephus

 

It is likely that the Great Wall of China was built to keep out 35-foot giants from the north.  (That’s why it is so immense.) (Originally called the Ramparts of Magog)

 

All post-flood giants described in the Bible are the offspring of other giants in the lineage of Canaan, Mizriam, Cush, and possibly Japheth (Gog and Magog).  There is evidence that Gog and Magog were giants.  The original name for the Great Wall of China was “The Ramparts of Magog.”

 

God wiped the last (most?) of these giants out with Israel’s sword.

 

Mizriam: begat Caphtor (Genesis 10:13-14) settled in Crete, the father of the Philistines (Jeremiah 47:4, Amos 9:7).  All Greek mythology originated in Crete.

Nimrod: began to be a mighty one (Geboren) on the earth – Became a giant? Hunter of giants? Septuagint: says he began to be a giant

 

Amos 2:9 Amos describes the Amorites:

Yet destroyed I the Amorite before them, whose height was like the height of the cedars, and he was strong as the oaks; yet I destroyed his fruit from above, and his roots from beneath.